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Post by Jen on May 6, 2011 16:18:27 GMT -5
Recently, I've heard some complaints about overuse of the karma system (people targeting others for repeated smiting that removes all of their positive karma).
In the admin system, the karma settings are limited to "on" or "off." So I'm afraid I can't put limits on it, at least nothing automated.
However, I can see who is doing it. So if we decide to leave the system in place, it could mean warnings or deactivation for anyone who abuses the system by smiting the same person over and over throughout the day. It's not something I would have time to monitor, but I could look into it on request if someone starts to suspect they're being targeted.
Or we could simply shut it off and forget it. I really do wish we had a "like" feature for individual posts, because I think that would be a much better way to do things. As much as I like the idea of exalting (and maybe the occasional smiting if we get a troll or something!), it has the potential to turn into a popularity contest and turn off new members. So that's something to consider.
But I'm not here to rule over you all - I want to hear what the community has to say. So please vote and we'll go with whatever you ladies want to do.
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Post by indybg on May 6, 2011 16:45:50 GMT -5
I think we are pretty good at sharing karma points, so as long as you take care of the smiter, I am ok with karma points. I voted I don't care either way, but just wanted to give my 2 cents in.
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Post by CFRN on May 6, 2011 17:09:14 GMT -5
I think the person who only gets on to smite Tracy (or anyone else who does something similar) should be warned and then deactivated if they don't stop. I see it as online bullying and think there should be a zero tolerance policy for it. So I don't care if the feature is shut off or not, and wouldn't expect you to monitor on a daily basis or anything. As far as I know, we only have problems with the one smiter. I'm not worried about the popularity contest aspect of it. Just my 2 cents.  |
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Post by eclipchic on May 6, 2011 17:16:18 GMT -5
I could go either way but I agree with CFRN that whomever is bullying should be treated to a big fat boot if they won't discontinue
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Post by luvmybabyboy on May 6, 2011 18:08:31 GMT -5
I agree w/ PPs, get the mean smiter outta here. I don't really care either way about the karma (I don't really see a point in it), but def get rid of the meanie.
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Post by Cin on May 6, 2011 18:12:20 GMT -5
Smiter no smiting, Smiter no smiting, Smiter no smiting... Did that work? Oh darn. Ok yeah I agree with the others on the Karma thief. Get them outta here!
I'm not sure how I feel about the karma per se, that is why I have not voted on it yet. I must think on it more and get back to you.
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Post by indymusicmom on May 6, 2011 18:28:13 GMT -5
I agree with the above POV's. I like the karma feature, but don't like to see it abused. If you know who's doing it, can you please shut them down, it's been going on for weeks.
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Post by akfirefly76 on May 6, 2011 19:57:17 GMT -5
It really feels like a popularity contest to me, karma thief or not, it just seems like something that could hurt feelings in the long run. Personally, I don't think this site would be any less awesome without karma, and having it definitely sets certain users as "above" or "more popular" than others. Granted, someone may have a ton of karma because they give awesome advice, or crack hilarious jokes... But perception can be very powerful on text only forums and for me, karma is not worth the trouble on an otherwise great site.
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Post by pitbull on May 6, 2011 21:12:46 GMT -5
Hmmm, I'm torn.
I actually think smiting could be a useful tool. I'm not afraid to admit that I used it on someone (one of the serious bat-shit crazy ones from the other place), and she ran away immediately. I won't name names, but I think we can all think of some posters from other places that nobody really says anything direct to, less it be a personal attack, but would have some major negative karma if that feature existed over there (think initials MM and her ilk). So I think there can be a place for the community to tell someone "you know what, you're really not jiving with the people here."
However, when you have people doing like the invisible Tracy smiter or MamaT exalter, then it pretty much makes the whole thing pointless.
All that said, I haven't even noticed what my karma has been for a week or more, so I've pretty much tuned it out at this point.
So I voted don't care either way.
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Post by Mama T on May 6, 2011 21:23:48 GMT -5
I am torn and will have to vote later. A lot of my thought has to do with having been around online forever and ever coupled with the uniqueness of this board. I try to keep my mouth shut about the smiting and whatnot and for good reason. Having the ability to smite or exalt in and of itself is neither here nor there for me, however, someone having the ability to show up just to flip the bird while wearing a mask isn't cool. My knee-jerk reaction is to say "run off the smiter", however, before you run them off, talk to them. It's easy to run someone off like that, to ban or what have you, but I've seen the repercussions a thousand times over and most of those times, it's not good. So, be careful with the running off.
I can't formulate thoughts well right now. I guess that overall, I think the smite/exalt feature is okay. However what I'd really rather see is that if someone has a problem with someone that they act like a grown up and say "hey, I have a problem with you". I guess that's my problem with the ability to smite. Giving karma is okay either way. Theoretically I am even in favor of having the ability to take it away but only if people can be mature about it (ie. using it wisely and preferably in conjunction with telling the person "I do not agree with your opinion" and so on and so forth). I'm going to shut up now because I know I'm not making enough sense.
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Post by artzyval on May 7, 2011 10:08:07 GMT -5
I say take it away. I don't think it does anything to help anyone. I log in 98% on my phone which doesnt even show karma. So I am always in the dark with what people's numbers are. I also do not think we need the gateway for someone to be abusive to the system. That much smiting was a violation of the few rules we have and should have been booted when it was first spotted. Karma just doesn't seem to have the accountability it needs on a online forum.
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Post by JenS on May 7, 2011 10:57:54 GMT -5
I'm with Val, most of the time I'm on my phone and can't see it anyway.
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Post by rlpett79 on May 7, 2011 11:59:59 GMT -5
As one of the least popular folk here (LOL I am just kidding)....I say I am cool either way!
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Post by LP'smama on May 7, 2011 12:21:27 GMT -5
I'm with Val, most of the time I'm on my phone and can't see it anyway. I'm with y'all. I have mine set to log in automatically and when I triedon the big computer, evidently I've forgotten the password.  |
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Post by mom2mam on May 9, 2011 10:20:20 GMT -5
Not sure...I know that I have been victim of the karma thief and I admit, it has made me rethink some of my postings. Silly, I know but not knowing who and why is annoying.
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Post by indybg on May 11, 2011 8:43:16 GMT -5
I thought about this one, and I say get rid of it!
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Post by jannettek on May 12, 2011 15:54:56 GMT -5
What does Karma get you? Just curious. I am not on enough to understand everything yet. Coming from a Buddhist standpoint, I know it has to be a different animal that what I am used to. TIA! Actually, while you ladies are at it, can you explain the "smite." I haven't used the smite or exalt, because I don't understand them. Thanks again!
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Post by CFRN on May 12, 2011 15:57:12 GMT -5
Karma doesn't actually "get you" anything. It's sort of like a "like" feature, except you can't do it to a certain post, only the poster themselves. Smiting takes it away, sort of like a "dislike" feature. |
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Post by jannettek on May 12, 2011 16:01:08 GMT -5
Karma doesn't actually "get you" anything. It's sort of like a "like" feature, except you can't do it to a certain post, only the poster themselves. Smiting takes it away, sort of like a "dislike" feature. Cool! Well then, why would people be stealing Karma? It seems like most of the ladies I know on this site came over, in part, because that "other site" was getting a bit angry. We need to keep the love flowing over here. lol! No more Karma thieves! |
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Post by indymusicmom on May 12, 2011 16:03:39 GMT -5
Exalting and smiting contribute to your karma points. You can only use the exalt/smite function once per hour (I think that's the time period). The idea is that people who give good advice or make people happy get exalted, thus increasing their karma. Those who piss people off get smited, thus lowering their karma. It doesn't get you anything except visible popularity and is not accurate due to mysterious users abusing the system. It made us laugh for awhile, but it's pretty redundant once you get used to it.
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